Heroic Judge Tosses Out "Criminal Defamation of Jews" Charge In Montana
By Martin Hill
December 27, 2015
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For the past year, LibertyFight.com has been covering the case of 28-year-old David Joseph Lenio, who was facing a potential 20 years in prison in Montana for two counts: criminal defamation of Jews, for which he faced a possible maximum sentence of up to ten years in prison; and intimidation, for which he also faces a potential ten year maximum. [See:
Sorry I am a little late in reporting this latest development, which occurred in September. But as usual, the national corporate media in the United States did not see fit to highlight the latest ruling this pesky case, so once again LibertyFight.com will be doing it and launching this victory for free speech on to the national and international stage.
On September 15, Flathead County, Montana District Judge Heidi J. Ulbricht [See her profile here] tossed out the charge of criminal defamation against Lenio, ruling that the statute (Montana Section 45-8-212 MCA) was overbroad. The charge of intimidation against Lenio has not been thrown out, but that is a separate issue and completely unrelated to the charge of criminal defanation of Jews, which Montana prosecutor Stacy Boman had been rigorously seeking. Lenio will reportedly face trial on the intimdation charge in January. But for now we will focus on this great victory for Lenio and for free speech, which is that Judge Ulbricht tossed out the criminal demafation charge. The judge ruled that the Montana statute is overbroad and unconstititonal.
As we reported, the state of Montana had gone to great lengths and contortions, insisting that the statute is not overbroad and that Lenio needs to be nailed to the wall for DARING to make claims and express his opinions about certain Jews. [See Prosecutor Justifies Charges Against Man for "Criminal Defamation of Jews" in Montana.]
Montana's criminal defamation law had actually already been challenged and ruled as overbroad years ago, and as a result the Montana State Legislature had ammended the law. That is why Montana was confident that Lenio could be successfully prosecuted for his Twitter statements about Jews, where lenio had opined that the holocaust was a hoax, and that the Jews manipulate and control the economy and are, as Lenio had put it, Jews hate free speech and are "known bullshitters."
In her ruling, Judge Heidi J. Ulbricht wrote, in part, (excerpts:)
"Lenio is charged with criminal defamation... it appears that the charge is based on allegations that defendant posted violent messages on twitter asserting that jewish people have harmed U.S. politics, degraded the national economy, hate free speech, and "are known bullsh-ters."
...Defendant argues that Montana's Criminal defamation statute is unconstitutionally overbroad because: a) it imposes liability for speech concerning groups of any size without regard to injury to individual reputation; b) it criminalizes public statements involving matters of public concern without requiring that the statements have been made with actual malice, and; c) it criminalizes statements of opinion.
To reiterate, an individual whose own speech or conduct may be prohibited by a statute is permitted to challenge it on its face "because it also threatens others not before the court -- those who desire to engage in legally protected expresssion but who may refrain from doing so rather than ris prosecution or undertake to have the law declared partially invalid."... Board of Airport Comm'rs of Los Angeles v. Jews for Jesus, Inc, ..(1987)
The statute makes it a crime to communicate defamatory matter to a third person without the consent of the person defamed. The definition of "defamatory matter" hinges on whether it subjects a perosn, group, class, or association to the risk of society's negative reaction or whether it causes actual injury to the defamed's business or occupation. Thus, it includes anything that offends a society at that particular time., Truth, absolute privilege, "fair comment" in good faith, fair reports concerning government or public proceddings, and communications furthering the speaker's interest or duty in the subject matter are affirmative defenses,.
Defamation is one of the narrowly limited historic and traditional classes of speech where restrictions on speech are permitted United States v. Stevens, (2010), (citing Beauharnais v. Illinois, 1952.) However, the history of the law surrounding criminal defamation and libel has been described as ignominious, and criminal defamation laws have fallen generally into disfavor among jurists over the last 50 years... In 1964, the United States Supreme Court limited the state's power to impose sanctions for criticism of public officials in criminal and civil cases and held that proof of actual malice was required in convictions under statures criminalizing defamation. Garrison v. Louisiana, 1964. Two years later, the Court held that the common crime of libel was unconstitutional Ashton v. Kentucky, (1966.) In the past decade, Washington, Kansas, Georgia, and Colorado repealed their criminal defamation/libel statutes. Although Minnesota (the source of Montana's statute), Mississippi, Nevada, New Mexico, and South Carolina, still have criminal defamation or libel statutes on the books, they all have been adjudicated either partically or wholly unconstitutional. Montana is one of the minority of states that still have an active criminal defamation statute.
Lenio argues that the sweep of the defamation statute is overbroad. ..
The State asserts that it has a substancial interest in protecting society from threatening speech while the benefts from such speech are miniscule...
...The statute cannot be saved through statutory surgery, The Court also will not engage in balancing the value of speech against the State's interest.. The United States Supreme Court has rejected as "startling and dangerous" a "free-floating test for First Amendment coverage... based on an ad hoc balancing of relative social costs and benefits." United States v. Stevens, (2010).
...Criminal penalties certainly pose as much of a threat to First Amendment interests as do punitive damages... Lenio argues that the statute is unconstitutional because it may be understood as penalizing statements of opinion. The State responds that the statute allows for fair comment made in good faith regarding persons participating in matters of public concern. It further contends that the statements at issue in this case were not statements of oponion but were statements of fact that are not true. [p.12.]
...Provably false factual assertions that a person or group was a traitor; a pimp, dishonest, a anti-Semite, a racist, or a fascist, in certain context have all been interpreted by court as figurative hyperbole. "Fair Comment" does not include opinions concerning matters of public concern, based on demonstrably true underlying facts, but that were not asserted in good faith.
The requirement that the overbreadth be substantial arose from the Supreme Court's recognition that "there must be a realistic danger that the statute itself will significantly compromise recognized First Amendment protections of parties not before the Court for it to be faciallly challenged on overbreadth grounds." Board of Airport Comm'rs of Los Angeles v. Jews for Jesus, Inc., (1987.) The Criminal Defamation statute criminalizes the knowing communication of anything that exposes a person or a group, class, or association to hatred, contempt, ridicule, degradation, or disgrace in society. Its affirmative defenses do not keep its broad sweep from including speech protected by the Constitution. It is overbroad.
You can find the full ruling here or just search for Judge Heidi J. Ulbricht David Lenio ruling.
NOTE: Listen to John Friend of The Realist Report interview Martin Hill (2 days ago) about his website LibertyFight.com and his recent confrontation with Donald Trump, where he disrupted Trump's Michigan speech and told Trump that JEWS, not Muslims, were arrested in NJ, and that Israel did 9/11. John did a great job and it was a very fun interview.
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Front-Row Protester Disrupts Trump's Michigan Speech with "ISRAEL DID 9/11! FIVE JEWS ARRESTED ON 9/11 IN NEW JERSEY, NOT MUSLIMS." Donald Trump Responds To Martin Hill, Says "He's very committed, Got a lot of energy, He's on our side, He's actually a Trump guy"
I spoke to Trump a few weeks ago at a South Carolina rally about the undue influence of the Israeli lobby, but my camera screwed up & didn't record. That REALLY pissed me off, and I was determined to do it right. So I scored yet another front-row spot to see Trump Monday night 12/21 in Michigan. I was standing only five feet away, right in front of him. The reason this was important to me is because truth is at stake. As one of my favorite people, Catholic Bishop Richard Williamson so eloquently explains, "9/11 is a classic example of an enslaving lie." The powers-that-be use the so called "war on terror" and fear of "Islamic terrorism" to justify their war mongering and empirical foreign policy - to fulfill the PNAC agenda, which began with their inside job of 9/11, their "New Pearl Harbor" as they called it. The war on terror is a complete fraud and a hoax, based on lies, starting with the foundational lie of 9/11/2001. It's time to set the record straight, loud and clear.
Trump's Response To "Israel Did 9/11" Front-Row Heckler Is Almost More Interesting Than The Heckle Itself UPDATE: Here is the News Footage Of Martin Hill Being Escorted Out By Secret Service While Trump Stops His Speech To Watch & Repeatedly Tells Them "Don't Hurt Him, Be Very Nice..."
FULL Event: Donald Trump Speaks To Fired Up Crowd In Grand Rapids, MI (12-21-15)
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GOP Presidential candidate Donald Trump held a campaign rally in Grand Rapids, MI at Deltaplex Arena & Conference Center. Mr. Trump spoke to thousands of fired up supporters and was interrupted countless times by protesters.
My Confrontation with Trump in South Carolina on Saturday 12/12/15: Trump's Secret Service Agent Tells Me "Let's Not Get Everyone Riled Up, Okay?" This Secret Service guy is the same guy who assaulted me on 12/21 in Michigan and started cussing at me as soon as I mentioned Israel.
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Nearly four years after I broke the story on the failed Dancing Israeli lawsuit, it still gets a huge amount of traffic daily, including many government agencies; for example, just a few days ago the U.S. Department of Justice visited. Notice that the DOJ clicked the link was to watch the youtube video 'History they don't teach you in school,' about the history of Israeli false-flag terrorism. Funny stuff. Here is the link and a screenshot their ISP logs. "Dancing Israelis" Arrested On 9/11 Later Sued The Govt, But Lost Their Case [Featured on Infowars.com.]
This is the part 1 video from the South Carolina rally on 12/12/15, that got cut off at :34 seconds. [Full story here. Trump shakes my hand and is signing my Trump bumper sticker when the space on the phone ran out. ;-(
RIGHT AT THE END you can hear me say "Mister Trump"... it gets cut off right there, and then I asked him my question about he undue influence of the Israeli lobby.
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The following is from the LibertyFight.com Trump Data Page: Donald Trump and the Five Jewish Israelis Arrested In New Jersey For Cheering and Dancing On 9/11/2001
Donald Trump keeps claiming that Muslims cheered on September 11, 2001. But is there any proof of this? Not only is there no proof, but the exact opposite is true. The only people proven to have cheered, celebrated, and were ARRESTED on 9/11/2001 for doing so were five JEWISH ISRAELIS. Got that? Not Muslims. JEWS.
They were cheering, partying and filming the Twin Towers as the towers blew up- an alarmed woman in New Jersey saw this from her apartment window and called police. Officer Scott DeCarlo arrested the five men at gunpoint, because they weren't cooperating.
The FBI was called in. The men were held in federal prison in New York for 71 days, and then a deal was struck and they were quietly sent back to Israel. They later sued the U.S. government, Attorney General John Ashcroft, and the Bureau of Prisons for numerous civil rights violations. Their case was thrown out of federal court. The Israelis lost their case. I am the person who broke that story about the outcome of their court case in 2012.
But all Trump keeps babbling about is these alleged Muslims who he claims were cheering. Trump says that he will protect Israel. He's protecting Israel right now, by obsessing on Muslims and the phony war on terror, instead of admitting about who REALLY cheered on 9/11, which was Jewish Israelis.
Watch this short video for a grammar-school type introduction into the Dancing Israelis' topic:
Let's Start Here:
For a full background on the five Dancing Jewish Israelis arrested on September 11, 2001 in New Jersey, read this article first:
For a full background on the five Dancing Jewish Israelis arrested on September 11, 2001 in New Jersey, read this article first:
Philip Giraldi is executive director of the Council for the National Interest. He is a former CIA counter-terrorism specialist and military intelligence officer who served eighteen years overseas in Turkey, Italy, Germany, and Spain. He was Chief of Base in Barcelona from 1989 to 1992 designated as the Agency's senior officer for Olympic Games support. Mr. Giraldi was awarded an MA and PhD from the University of London in European History and holds a Bachelor of Arts with Honors from the University of Chicago. He speaks Spanish, Italian, German, and Turkish.
Ron Paul: Donald Trump is an Establishment Empty Suit Get this out. Wise words and observations from Ron Paul.
Donald Trump Endorsement for Prime Minister Netanyahu
Published on Jan 15, 2013 - In an unprecedented move, the U.S. billionaire and world-renowned entrepreneur, Mr. Donald Trump, took part in a video showing his support for the Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu and The Likud Party in general elections in Israel next week: "Vote for Benjamin, terrific guy, terrific leader, great for Israel."
Alex Jones of Infowars.com ran my story about the five Israelis failed lawsuit on the his website in 2012. It is still there, see the link below. Donald Trump was on Alex Jones' radio show a few weeks ago. Alex Jones is famous for making documenting films pointing out that 9/11 was an "inside job," done by the United States government to justify starting more ears and enacting a tyrannical police state. [See 9/11 Road To Tyranny' and TerrorStorm. You can find more of Alex Jones films here.]
Here is my article on the dancing Israelis: "Dancing Israelis" Arrested On 9/11 Later Sued The Govt, But Lost Their Case
Maybe Donald should be advocating restricting ISRAELI entry into the U.S. and 'registering' Israelis instead of what he said he wants to do, register Muslims? (ever hear of Jonathan Pollard, the Lavon Affair, or the U.S.S Liberty?]
For those who insist that there were cheering Muslims, thousands of them no less, Okay, what were these cheering Muslim's names? What prison were they held in? who arrested them? What were their lawyers names?
You don't have their names. But I'll tell you what I have: Four of the cheering Jewish Israelis names were Paul Kurzberg, Silvan Kurzberg, Israelis Yaron Shmuel, and Omer Gavriel Marmari. They were held at the federal prison in New York for 71 days. They were arrested by New jersey Police Officer Scott DeCarlo. Their lawyers in their civil case were New York attorney Robert Joseph Tolchin and Israeli attorney Nitsana Darshan-Leitner. (She also represented the Jews suing Jimmy Carter for his Palestine book.)
I eagerly await your proof and similar details about all these "scary cheering Muslims on 9/11." Since there were untold thousands of them cheering across the east coast, according to you, the Republican neocon echo chamber, and Donny Trump, certainly you can find details on at least ONE of the MULTIPLE THOUSANDS who 'cheered and celebrated for 9/11."
Or, do your twitter eyewitnesses and all the 'reliable' neocon Zionist sites not bother giving any such details?
Gee, wonder why? This is so confusing!
That is what I mean by COMPETENCE. You see, unlike anyone who's babbling and frothing at the mouth about these alleged "cheering Muslims," I actually know what competence MEANS. I have actually had a police officer declared INCOMPETENT TO TESTIFY in California Superior Court of Appeals. [LewRockwell liked that one.]
So yes, I know what the term COMPETENT actually means. I am very competent. (except with video cameras, ;-(
I don't believe there is anyone even MILES NEAR competent to prove anything regarding the completely unproven "cheering Muslims on 9/11."
Whenever I ask anyone for actual PROOF proof of their claims, they transform into mentally ill basket cases.
No one understands or even comprehends what competence means. I was raised differently than that.
When I want to prove something, I DO IT.
That's the way men are supposed to be.
There are VERY FEW competent people today.
It's a shame.
People flip out when someone criticizes their 'sacred cow', in this case, Donny trump - Yes, the Harry Reid donor. Trump, who in the past has said "we should ban assault weapons" (he has since magically 'flip-flopped' and is now 'pro gun.') Trump says 'I LOVE Benjamin Netanyahu and I will PROTECT ISRAEL.' He is pro waterboarding and TORTURE candidate, (yes, torture is inherently SATANIC.) , pro patriot act just like Bush candidate, the candidate who says "people who believe in freedom of speech are foolish," Donny Trump.
Stuff like this always reminds me of how mesmerized schoolgirls behaved in 7th grade. It's literally identical, but when applied to grown allegedly heterosexual men, is some bizarre sick garbage.
This is going to be a very interesting campaign season.
There is MUCH MORE to come from LibertyFight.com, the tip of the spear in the truly independent media. Because I have the resources to be wherever I want, whenever I want. When I want to break a story, I do it. Whether it be in California, New York, Germany, Turkey, China, Rome, Council, Idaho, Mexico, Canada, Norway, Fatima Portugal, or anywhere else. It is a great deal of fun. No one tells me what to do. That is a real blessing from God.
And here is why:
"He that abides in me, and I in him, the same bears much fruit: for without me you can do nothing." John 15:5
People should really meditate on that verse and try to understand, and live, what it means.
Someone recently asked "So because these Israeli guys were cheering no one else did?"
I just go by the actual facts. The dancing Israelis are VERY RELEVANT. And very important. And it is the ONLY PROVEN case of ANYONE cheering on 9/11.
There is no proof of any Muslims cheering. it is only HEARSAY and silly Twitter posts claiming this or that.
That is not the kind of reporting that I do, or that I respect. It is not credible. At all. It is nothing but Zionist propaganda to get the people emotionally invested in fear and hate of Muslims, by bearing false witness against them. That is a very serious sin, and I take that VERY seriously.
The five Jews, on the other hand, is very different. It is documented and factual, and irrefutable. It's in declassified police reports, FBI reports, and federal court records. I posted their names. It is NOT conjecture.
So let's say that it's important the people were cheering as Trump claims. If that's the case, then why would he not and never mention the ONLY PROVEN case of who ACTUALLY cheered, and that is the FIVE JEWS. not Muslims. JEWS.
CIA Analyst Philip Giraldi has come out strongly pointing out that Trump is avoiding the inconvenient fact that Israelis not only cheered, but were arrested, and actually took part in 9/11.
So this Muslim thing, is nothing more that twofold obfuscation of the real scandal, and to continue the so-called war on terror, which is a contrived hoax, to drum up support for this PNAC neocon foreign policy we've had for almost 2 decades now. If you don't know what PNAC is, you're 15 years behind and woefully uninformed. PNAC stands for PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY. They wrote a policy paper prior to 9/11 titled REBUILDING AMERICA'S DEFENSES in which they called for a "New Pearl Harbor" in order to justify their endless wars in the middle east. They coincidentally got it 9 months later, on 9/11/2001. Details here:
Only now, unlike on 9/11, the Muslim terrorism is real, in large part since the USA has agitated, encouraged and funded more of it, such as the U.S. admittedly funds ISIS and ISIL, which slaughters Christians by the millions. Paid for with our tax dollars!
This issue of Israeli treachery and Jewish terrorism is a very important issue to get into the public arena. That is the basis of all these wars, terrorism, and lies. I believe it's more important now than ever.
This is just a starter education on the Trojan Horse named Donald Trump:
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Here is Trump's waffling on immigration, backing away from his support of amnesty now that he's pretending to be a 'conservative.'
On guns, Trump has openly called for gun bans, and to this day supports longer waiting lists and 'background checks.' And in a recent interview with a gun rights group, he did not retract his position on assault weapons ban, but rather quibbled about the defintion of what's considered an assault weapon.
Here are some of the priceless comments from the gun rights forum from people who don't fall for Trump's b.s.:
When the protesters disrupted Trump in South Carolina on December 12, he said 'we needed more of that in the past ten years."
Got that? When Trump was interrupted he actually said WE NEEDED MORE OF THAT! In other words he said we needed more dissent, then maybe things would not have gotten as bad as they have in this country. I will post the video of him saying that later. We need more people standing up.
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Many more of my articles and videos related to the dancing Israelis are linked below.
"I've had about enough of this propaganda of Muslims cheering for 9/11. It has gotten to the level of insane propaganda. Not only that, it's even worse, violating God's solemn Commandment of "Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness". I'm Catholic and I actually take this stuff very seriously. As I've discussed many times with my friend, Muslim scholar Dr. Kevin Barrett, (who was fired from his job as a University professor for daring to tell the truth about 9/11,) I've always contended that the accusation that 'Muslims are responsible for the attacks of 9/11/2001' is actually a very serious sin. Because it falsely blames a group of people who actually had nothing to do with 9/11. Once I learned the truth, in October 2001, I felt a moral obligation to set the facts straight.
Donald Trump, Ben Carson, Glenn Greenwald, and countless other politicians, along with corporate news outlets are now writing, tweeting, and even broadcasting news reports about these alleged people, Muslims, who "danced and cheered in the streets as 9/11 occurred". According to Trump, Carson and the neocons, this really happened and the people were Muslims.
This actually serves as a good opportunity for us to set the record straight.In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners' plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river.
The interesting thing is that the Washington Post picked up on this and posted their own extremely thorough and lengthy rebuttal of the author's claims. Since the Post's own story was used as alleged 'proof' of the Muslims cheering, they took quite a bit of time and detail to debunk the myth that "thousands of Muslims were cheering."
However, a most interesting point is that the Washington Post also focuses a lot of ink and attention on the specific allegation of the men dancing on the rooftop in New Jersey. The most frustrating thing is that they claim these are also unsubstanciated rumors, even quoting a new jersey police officer:"But Walter Zalisko, a former police officer in Jersey City, contacted The Fact Checker to say Farmer was wrong. He says he heard on the radio dispatch at the time that officers had found Middle Easterners 'clapping and laughing' on a number of rooftops, even in one case knocking down a cardboard version of the Twin Towers. But he does not think a police report was filed."
NOWHERE is Israel or the five dancing Israelis mentioned, even though their arrest and deportation has been thoroughly documented in both corporate media reports, as well as police reports, declassificed FBI files, and U.S. Federal court records.
You can read the Post's article here: [Nov. 23, 2015: Fact checking Donald Trump's outrageous claim that 'thousands' of New Jersey Muslims celebrated 9/11 attacks] By Glenn Kessler.
Their orignal article from 9/18/2001 is here: Northern New Jersey Draws Probers' Eyes
The Washington Post author asks for feedback so I sent him the following e-mail. Glenn Kessler, , firstname.lastname@example.org.
FACTCHECK re: cheering after 9/11 in NJ
Sent: Thu 11/26/2015 4:02 PM
Dear Mr. Kessler, This is in regards to your article re: cheering after 9/11.
I see that you have posted many updates, which I appreciate. Following is some information which you may find of interest. Unlike the many unsubstanciated claims, this info is 100% verified,. People may disagree on the significance of this information, but there is no refuting it.
I agree with your main premise which is that Trump's claims about 'thousands of Muslims cheering' are completely false and baseless.
The people allegedly cheering on a rooftop in NJ which you referred to, however, did indeed occur. It is documented in official police reports, as well as Declassified FBI reports and U.S. Federal court records. The clencher, however, is that these 5 men were not "Arab Muslims" or "Palestinians". They were Israelis! They appeared on ABC's 20/20.
A concerned New Jersey woman saw the men cheering, high-fiving, dancing and recording the towers come down, so she called the police. NJ officer Scott DeCarlo, who has given interviews on this matter, arrested them at gunpoint and apprehended them. The five men wre held in federal prison for 71 days, released back to Israel, and later filed a civil suit against John Ashcroft, the bureau of prisons, and the U.S. government for numerous civil rights violations. The judge after several years threw the case out of court. I wish you would please verify everything I'm telling you because it's not me 'claiming it'. it's all outlined in mainstream news reports and court records. Here is more data., excerpts from a research article i wrote on this in 2012.. It i quite a lengthy article but here are the basics. There is much more at the link,
Thanks for your time,
"Dancing Israelis" Arrested On 9/11 Later Sued The Govt, But Lost Their Case
http://libertyfight.com/2012/dancing_israelis_sued_the_govt_but_lost_in_court.html In the case of the Israelis arrested on 9/11, some of the documents have been made public. The lawsuit case can be read HERE. The court's decision can be found on leagle.com. The case is KURZBERG v. ASHCROFT 619 F.3d 176 (2010). The document is from the United States Court of Appeals, Second Circuit. The Docket No. of the case is 07-0542-cv. It was argued on November 17, 2009 and decided on August 30, 2010.
To put it plainly, the case was dismissed not because of any of the issues involved or merits of the case, but because the plaintiffs failed to serve the defendants properly as per the rules of the Federal Court. Because the plaintiffs sued Attorney General John Ashcroft along with many others working for the government, as the appeals court put it, "the plaintiffs were required to serve process on both the individual defendants and - because the individual defendants were sued for acts or omissions occurring in connection with their performance of their duties - the United States." Ashcroft early in the proceedings actually waived his right to be personally served, but the plaintiffs had to officially serve the U.S as well. As the court explained, "by its plain text, requires service both upon the individual defendant and upon the United States officially; one will not suffice for the other." They actually gave the plaintiffs numerous chances to accomplish this, which was literally as simple as going down to any post office and mailing a certified letter! As the court further explained in their ruling,"In order to serve process on the United States, the plaintiffs were required to deliver a copy of the complaint to the United States attorney for the district in which the action was brought and also send a copy of the summons and complaint by registered or certified mail to the Attorney General. Here, the plaintiffs failed to comply with Rule 4(i) because they did not effect service on the United States. The plaintiffs failed to do so despite receiving repeated reminders from the defendants that left the plaintiffs with sufficient time to complete service."
Channel 4 in the UK later produced a documentary called "The 9/11 Conspiracies". They interviewed Maria, the woman who initially called the police on the men, and also interviewed three of the Israelis. While the Israelis didn't talk to 20/20 about the incident in June 2002, they did speak about it in the UK documentary. It is an excellent must-see segment and canbe found towards the bottom of the page here.
In 2004, four of the Israelis, Paul Kurzberg, Silvan Kurzberg, Israelis Yaron Shmuel, and Omer Gavriel Marmari filed a federal civil rights lawsuit against Attorney General John Ashcroft and wardens of the Federal Bureau of Prisons. The four were represented by New York attorney Robert Joseph Tolchin and Israeli attorney Nitsana Darshan-Leitner. They claimed that their detention was illegal and that their civil rights were violated, suffering racial slurs, physical violence, religious discrimination, rough interrogations, deprivation of sleep, and many other offenses. The lawsuit also stated "As Israelis and as Jews, plaintiffs themselves are sworn enemies of al-Qaida and Osama bin Laden."
Regarding the "dancing Israelis", 911Myths.com notes "One curious footnote to this story appeared three years later, when four of the Israelis filed a lawsuit against the Department of Justice. We've not yet discovered what happened to the case, and the lack of information suggests it never reached court. Still, bringing the case at all is hardly what you'd expect if these really were Mossad agents somehow connected to 9/11. Surely three years on they'd want to keep their heads down, not re-open the whole affair?"
There are three archived news reports on the lawsuit from September 2004. The first is an Kokhaviv Publications IMRA Newsletter titled "Israelis detained on George Washington Bridge on 9/11 sue Department of Justice dated September 14, 2004. The 2nd is an archive of a Jerusalem Post article titled Four Israelis sue Ashcroft dated September 14, 2004. The 3rd is from the Jewish news weekly of Northern California, titled Four Israelis sue Ashcroft, FBI director over 9/11 treatment dated Friday, September 17, 2004.
The actual police and FBI reports were declassified and released in 2011, and can be read in their entirety through the following links. (911Myths notes that they originally retrieved the 6 documents from scribd.com.) There is an outstanding detailed analysis of the FBI reports here: The "Dancing Israelis" FBI Report - Debunked [also: Dancing Israelis: Further Evidence of Foreknowledge.]
East Rutherford police documents View on Scribd
FBI Documents, section #1 View on Scribd
FBI Documents, section #2 View on Scribd
FBI Documents, section #3 View on Scribd
FBI Documents, section #4 View on Scribd
FBI Documents, section #5 View on Scribd
The FBI report outlines the fact that the dancing Israelis were found to have taken 76 photographs and had maps, plane tickets, boxcutters, and almost $5,000 cash. In their 2004 civil lawsuit, the Israeli plaintiffs demanded their possessions and money back, in addition to many other demands. The declassified FBI reports also outline the little known fact that additional Israelis driving vans were arrested by police in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and New Hampshire after the 9/11 attack. Numerous trucks and vans with explosives were stopped by police on 9/11. One of the vans had a mural painted on the side of a plane crashing into New York buildings. Although this sounds outlandish, it is indeed true, confirmed by the New York police radio transmission recordings from the day of 9/11/01. The mural was also discussed by U.S. Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta in his official report.Naturally the strangeness of this audio clip has lead to questions concerning its authenticity, yet this was cleared up soon after the clip emerged sometime last year, when it was discovered that reference to the mural van was also made in the February 2006 Norman Y. Mineta International Institute for Surface Transportation Policy Studies (MTI) report entitled: "Saving City Lifelines: Lessons Learned in the 9-11 Terrorist Attacks". The report states:
"There were continuing moments of alarm. A panel truck with a painting of a plane flying into the World Trade Center was stopped near the temporary command post. It proved to be rented to a group of ethnic Middle Eastern people who did not speak English. Fearing that it might be a truck bomb, the NYPD immediately evacuated the area, called out the bomb squad, and detained the occupants until a thorough search was made. The vehicle was found to be an innocent delivery truck." [The Mystery Of The 9/11 Car Bombs Evidence points to multiple roaming backup teams with vans full of explosives [Infowars.net April 23, 2007].
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