Rand Paul: "The people in Gitmo are bad people. I would try them and convict them."
By Martin Hill
January 17, 2015


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The New Hampshire Journal reports on Rand Paul,
He was cool to legislation sponsored by Sen. Kelly Ayotte that would restrict the administration's transfers of detainees from the Guantanamo Bay. She said the Obama policy of transferring detainees is harming national security. But Paul said, "I've always felt that the question of Gitmo is less about the locality and the prison than it is about, if you're accused of something, you need finality," he said. "In all likelihood the people in Gitmo are bad people. But if I were in charge, I would try them and convict them. It can be done in a military court. "Give them a sentence," Paul said.

Ron Paul, on the other hand, has advocated closing Guantanamo Bay for years now.

In addition, with Rand trying his best to attract mainstream Republicans, he can still admit that closing Gitmo is reasonable. Even Fox News, Dick Cheney, Bush appointees, Gitmo prison officials, and countless others have admitted that Gitmo detainees are innocent.

On 3/19/09, Fox News reported: Ex-Bush Official: Many at Guantanamo Bay Are Innocent.

See also:

Dick Cheney Admits Some CIA Terror Detainees Were Innocent 12/16/14

Former US Vice President Dick Cheney acknowledged for the first time on Sunday that some of the men and boys detained as terrorism suspects after 9/11 were in fact innocent. Appearing on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday, Cheney, a staunch proponent of the ‘enhanced interrogation techniques' used during US questioning of terror suspects but considered torture under domestic and international law, said that a "few" detainees were wrongfully held. However, Cheney expressed no remorse and little concern that these people were imprisoned for long periods and sometimes tortured — even to death. "I'm more concerned with the bad guys that were released than the few that were, in fact, innocent," said Cheney, noting that the man who would become the leader of the Islamic State militant group, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, had been a US prisoner in Iraq before being released in 2004. According to the recently-released summary of a Senate Intelligence Committee report on CIA torture after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, at least 26 of the 119 detainees covered in the report were wrongfully detained, even after their captors realized they were innocent.

WashingtonsBlog (8/1/14) Obama Admits U.S. "Tortured Some Folks". Here's WHAT HE DIDN'T SAY
Obama said today: "We tortured some folks - We did some things that were contrary to our values."
We applaud Obama admitting to this unsavory chapter in U.S. history. The government has denied for years that the U.S. tortures - even though we in the alternative media exposed the torture 10 years ago. But there's a lot that Obama didn't say - Initially, it wasn't just "some folks" we tortured. The torture was widespread and systemic. And it wasn't just bad guys who were tortured:
  • The commander of the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, Janis Karpinski, estimates that 90% of detainees in the prison were innocent
  • The number two man at the State Department under Colin Powell, Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, says that many of those being held at Guantanamo Bay were innocent, and that top Bush administration officials knew that they were innocent
  • U.S. military files showthat many Guantánamo prisoners were held on the flimsiest grounds such as wearing a Casio watch, being a prisoner in a Taliban jail, driving cabs in certain geographic regions, or being Al Jazeera reporters
  • Many state that those tortured were mainly innocent farmers, villagers, or those against whom neighbors held a grudge. Indeed, people received a nice cash reward from the U.S. government for turning people in as "suspected terrorists" (and see this movie.)

  • 90% of Guantanamo prisoners are innocent people sold to US Gov' - former detainee 5/18/13
    "The current Guantanamo hunger strike began on February 6th. More than 140 navy medical workers were recruited to treat the strikers. Some of them were forced to feeding. Murat Kurnaz, former Guantanamo detainee, who had been tortured for more than four years, gave an interview to the Voice of Russia."

    In 2010, Truth-out.org reported:

    Ex-Bush Official Willing to Testify Bush, Cheney Knew Gitmo Prisoners Innocent - Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld once declared that individuals captured by the US military in the aftermath of 9/11 and shipped off to the Guantanamo Bay prison facility represented the "worst of the worst." During a radio interview in June 2005, Rumsfeld said the detainees at Guantanamo, "all of whom were captured on a battlefield," are "terrorists, trainers, bomb makers, recruiters, financiers, [Osama Bin Laden's] body guards, would-be suicide bombers, probably the 20th hijacker, 9/11 hijacker." But Rumsfeld knowingly lied, according to a former top Bush administration official. And so did then Vice President Dick Cheney when he said, also in 2002 and in dozens of public statements thereafter, that Guantanamo prisoners "are the worst of a very bad lot" and "dangerous" and "devoted to killing millions of Americans, innocent Americans, if they can, and they are perfectly prepared to die in the effort."

    Now, in a sworn declaration obtained exclusively by Truthout, Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, who was chief of staff to former Secretary of State Colin Powell during George W. Bush's first term in office, said Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld knew the "vast majority" of prisoners captured in the so-called War on Terror were innocent and the administration refused to set them free once those facts were established because of the political repercussions that would have ensued. "By late August 2002, I found that of the initial 742 detainees that had arrived at Guantánamo, the majority of them had never seen a US soldier in the process of their initial detention and their captivity had not been subjected to any meaningful review," Wilkerson's declaration says. "Secretary Powell was also trying to bring pressure to bear regarding a number of specific detentions because children as young as 12 and 13 and elderly as old as 92 or 93 had been shipped to Guantánamo. By that time, I also understood that the deliberate choice to send detainees to Guantánamo was an attempt to place them outside the jurisdiction of the US legal system." He added that it became "more and more clear many of the men were innocent, or at a minimum their guilt was impossible to determine let alone prove in any court of law, civilian or military."

    Cheney on Interrogation Tactics: 'I Would Do It Again in a Minute'
    "Torture is what the al Qaeda terrorists did to 3,000 Americans on 9/11," Cheney said on NBC's Meet The Press. "There is no comparison between that and what we did with respect to enhanced interrogation." The former vice president added that he was not concerned about the capture or interrogation of foreign nationals who were ultimately revealed to be innocent. "I have no problem as long as we achieve our objective and our objective is to get the guys who did 9/11 and it is to avoid another attack against the United States," he said.

    The Guardian: Shocking cases in CIA report reveal an American torture program in disarray 12/9/14
    Years of leaks about the CIA's post-9/11 torture efforts failed to reveal a program as brutal, unaccountable and even chaotic as the one portrayed on Tuesday

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