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I was very happily surprised to hear at Sunday Mass yesterday that not only did the priest bring up the issue of the pope and Donald Trump, but he quoted the pope's words and said that "he was wrong" to say that Donald Trump was not a Christian.
I am going to paraphrase what the priest said since I don't have an exact transcript of it. But here is the gist of it.
Towards the end of his homily, which occurs after the liturgy and before the consecration, the priest said that Pope Francis caused a lot of controversy this week because of his remarks about Donald Trump.
The priest quoted a portion the pope's exact words, which were given in response to the question a reporter asked during an informal press Q&A on an airplane ride.
"...a person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian. This is not in the gospel. As far as what you said about whether I would advise to vote or not to vote, I am not going to get involved in that. I say only that this man is not Christian if he has said things like that. "
"Donald Trump is not politically correct," the priest began. "What Pope Francis said was not politically correct. He was wrong" for what he said about Trump, the priest continued.
He explained that what Catholics can ask, however, during this election season is to ask and discern for themselves if candidates seem to listen to the teachings of Jesus Christ (a reference to the Gospel reading. Luke 9:28b-36 ) or are an "enemy of the cross" (a reference to the days second reading, Phil 3:17-4:1). You can find all of yesterday's Mass readings here.
The priest said that not only should a candidate honor and uphold the oath they swore to U.S. Constitution, they will hopefully live by God's laws, and have a commitment to the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
During the intercessions, they prayed that people "living under tyranny" will gain strength and sustenance from Almighty God.
I was very happy that the priest pointed this out, and I suspect that this by far isn't the only priest who responded in this way, essentially apologizing and refuting the pope's off-hand remarks about Donald Trump. To claim that Trump, or any person, is not Christian merely because they want border walls is an outrageous and scandalous accusation, not based on any Catholic teaching. Matter of fact, as I pointed out last week, the official Catechism of the Catholic Church states that immigrants are obligated to obey the laws of the country they immigrate to and political authorities have every right to "make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions."
Most all conservative Catholics in America, millions of them, rightly expect and demand that the U.S. government enforce its immigration laws and secure the borders. There is nothing whatsoever 'un-Christian' about this. Many Catholics nationwide were upset, offended, angry and confused about Pope Francis remarks about Donald Trump. I believe it was a very destructive, disruptive, and inappropriate thing that Pope Francis said, claiming that Trump was not a Christian, and I hope he will apologize for it. I believe that the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops will actually issue a statement on this matter soon.
Regarding immigration, The Catechism of the Catholic Church No. 2241 states
"The more prosperous nations are obliged, to the extent they are able, to welcome the foreigner in search of the security and the means of livelihood which he cannot find in his country of origin. Public authorities should see to it that the natural right is respected that places a guest under the protection of those who receive him.
Political authorities, for the sake of the common good for which they are responsible, may make the exercise of the right to immigrate subject to various juridical conditions, especially with regard to the immigrants' duties toward their country of adoption. Immigrants are obliged to respect with gratitude the material and spiritual heritage of the country that receives them, to obey its laws and to assist in carrying civic burdens."
In addition, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops issued an official document in 2013 which states that the "Duty of Government Is To Secure One's Border And Enforce The Law For The Sake Of The Common Good." !! That sounds like something Donald Trump would say!
The bishops also declared "Enforcement: The U.S. Catholic Bishops accept the legitimate role of the U.S. government in intercepting unauthorized migrants who attempt to travel to the United States."
The bishops wrote, in part,
"The Catholic Catechism instructs the faithful that good government has two duties, both of which must be carried out and neither of which can be ignored... The second duty is to secure one's border and enforce the law for the sake of the common good. Sovereign nations have the right to enforce their laws and all persons must respect the legitimate exercise of this right... Enforcement: The U.S. Catholic Bishops accept the legitimate role of the U.S. government in intercepting unauthorized migrants who attempt to travel to the United States..."
You can read their entire document here.
I can tell you that many traditional and conservative Catholics are very disturbed and upset by much of what this pope says about many issues - myself included.
When the pope says "who am I to judge?" when asked about homos, for example, (another cringe-inducing comment the pope made on an airplane, coincidentally) that doesn't mean that the church teaching has suddenly and magically changed after 2000 years and that the church now accepts the practice of homosexual acts. It does not and never has. The Catechism of the Catholic Church, the teachings of the church, does not change from day to day and monent to moment based on this very liberal pope's opinion about this or that. That is not how it works.
I should point out that many non Catholics, and even many Catholics, do not understand what is meant by the term 'papal infallibility.' This does not mean that if the Pope likes the Denver Broncos in the Superbowl that Catholics must obey and agree with his opinion. The pope's off hand remarks and even his political opinion, or ideas about climate change and global warming, or economics, have nothing to do with infallibility.
Below is some information explaining the dogma of papal infallibility.
But I will conclude noting that I am not going to name the church or priest who said the pope was wrong about Donald Trump.
This is because I do not want the parsh to be deluged with calls, or praise or criticism about this matter. It doesn't matter who the priest was. This is not about the cult of personality or to cause some scandal. The priest has his own flock to attend to and a lot of duties he has to complete every day. I hope readers know I take my faith very seriously, what I outlined here about the priests homily yesterday is true, and that I simply posted this to inform readers of the political climate among Catholics in America.
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Chastity and homosexuality
2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.
2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.
2396 Among the sins gravely contrary to chastity are masturbation, fornication, pornography, and homosexual practices.
The Catholic Encyclopedia entry on Infallibility can be found here.
"Papal infallibility is a dogma of the Catholic Church that states that, in virtue of the promise of Jesus to Peter, the Pope is preserved from the possibility of error "When, in the exercise of his office as shepherd and teacher of all Christians, in virtue of his supreme apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine concerning faith or morals to be held by the whole Church."
...Conditions for teachings being declared infallible
Statements by a pope that exercise papal infallibility are referred to as solemn papal definitions or ex cathedra teachings. Also considered infallible are the teachings of the whole body of bishops of the Church, especially but not only in an ecumenical council
"The Catholic Church�s teaching on papal infallibility is one which is generally misunderstood by those outside the Church. In particular, Fundamentalists and other "Bible Christians" often confuse the charism of papal "infallibility" with "impeccability." They imagine Catholics believe the pope cannot sin. Others, who avoid this elementary blunder, think the pope relies on some sort of amulet or magical incantation when an infallible definition is due.
... ...An infallible pronouncement�whether made by the pope alone or by an ecumenical council�usually is made only when some doctrine has been called into question. Most doctrines have never been doubted by the large majority of Catholics.
...Some ask how popes can be infallible if some of them lived scandalously. This objection of course, illustrates the common confusion between infallibility and impeccability. There is no guarantee that popes won�t sin or give bad example. (The truly remarkable thing is the great degree of sanctity found in the papacy throughout history; the "bad popes" stand out precisely because they are so rare.)
Other people wonder how infallibility could exist if some popes disagreed with others. This, too, shows an inaccurate understanding of infallibility, which applies only to solemn, official teachings on faith and morals, not to disciplinary decisions or even to unofficial comments on faith and morals. A pope�s private theological opinions are not infallible, only what he solemnly defines is considered to be infallible teaching.
The official Catechism of the Catholic Church states:
The teaching office
888 Bishops, with priests as co-workers, have as their first task "to preach the Gospel of God to all men," in keeping with the Lord's command.415 They are "heralds of faith, who draw new disciples to Christ; they are authentic teachers" of the apostolic faith "endowed with the authority of Christ."416
889 In order to preserve the Church in the purity of the faith handed on by the apostles, Christ who is the Truth willed to confer on her a share in his own infallibility. By a "supernatural sense of faith" the People of God, under the guidance of the Church's living Magisterium, "unfailingly adheres to this faith."417
890 The mission of the Magisterium is linked to the definitive nature of the covenant established by God with his people in Christ. It is this Magisterium's task to preserve God's people from deviations and defections and to guarantee them the objective possibility of professing the true faith without error. Thus, the pastoral duty of the Magisterium is aimed at seeing to it that the People of God abides in the truth that liberates. To fulfill this service, Christ endowed the Church's shepherds with the charism of infallibility in matters of faith and morals. the exercise of this charism takes several forms:
891 "The Roman Pontiff, head of the college of bishops, enjoys this infallibility in virtue of his office, when, as supreme pastor and teacher of all the faithful - who confirms his brethren in the faith he proclaims by a definitive act a doctrine pertaining to faith or morals.... the infallibility promised to the Church is also present in the body of bishops when, together with Peter's successor, they exercise the supreme Magisterium," above all in an Ecumenical Council.418 When the Church through its supreme Magisterium proposes a doctrine "for belief as being divinely revealed,"419 and as the teaching of Christ, the definitions "must be adhered to with the obedience of faith."420 This infallibility extends as far as the deposit of divine Revelation itself.421
892 Divine assistance is also given to the successors of the apostles, teaching in communion with the successor of Peter, and, in a particular way, to the bishop of Rome, pastor of the whole Church, when, without arriving at an infallible definition and without pronouncing in a "definitive manner," they propose in the exercise of the ordinary Magisterium a teaching that leads to better understanding of Revelation in matters of faith and morals. To this ordinary teaching the faithful "are to adhere to it with religious assent"422 which, though distinct from the assent of faith, is nonetheless an extension of it.
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