Trump: Israel Is Spying Against Us
By Martin Hill
LibertyFight.com
March 28, 2016


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Buried in the middle of a very lengthy New York Times telephone interview transcript which took place on Friday, GOP frontrunner Donald Trump replied to a question about U.S. spying on foreign leaders with a justification of "they're spying against us" too.

Specifically, the question was regarding Israel and Germany.

Keep in mind that Trump said this a mere four days after his AIPAC speech, which many Trump supporters characterized as his merely playing politics, a necessary part of the campaign process. Hours before his AIPAC speech, Trump said that countries, including Israel, should repay the U.S. for military aid they have received. "I think Israel would do that also. There are many countries that can pay, and they can pay big-league," he said.

The New York Times interview, conducted in two separate interviews by NYT reporters Maggie Haberman and David E. Sanger, focused exclusively on foreign policy.

Excerpt: (emphasis in bold added.)


HABERMAN: Mr. Trump, just a quick follow-up on that question. As you know, we discovered in recent years that the U.S. spies extensively against its allies. That's what came up with Edward Snowden and his data trove including Israel and Germany.

TRUMP: Edward Snowden has caused us tremendous problems.

HABERMAN: But would you continue the programs that are in place now, or would you halt them, in terms of spying against our allies?

SANGER: Like Israel and Germany.

TRUMP: Right. They're spying against us. Edward Snowden has caused us tremendous problems. Edward Snowden has been, you know, you have the two views on Snowden, obviously: You have, he's wonderful, and you have he's horrible. I'm in the horrible category. He's caused us tremendous problems with trust, with everything about, you know, when they're showing, Merkel's cellphone has been spied on, and are ' Now, they're doing it to us, and other countries certainly are doing it to us, and but what I think what he did, I think it was a tremendous, a tremendous disservice to the United States. I think and I think it's amazing that we can't get him back.

SANGER: President Obama ordered an end to the spying, to the listening in on Angela Merkel's cellphone, if that's in fact what we were doing. Was that the right decision?

TRUMP: Well you see, I don't know that, you know, when I talk about unpredictability, I'm not sure that we should be talking about me ' On the assumption that I'm doing well, which I am, and that I may be in that position, I'm not sure that I would want to be talking about that. You understand what I mean by that, David. We're so open, we're so, 'Oh I wouldn't do this, I wouldn't do that, I would do this, I would do that.' And it's not so much with Merkel, but it's certainly with other countries. You know, that really, where there's, where there's a different kind of relationship, and a much worse relationship than with Germany. So, you know there's so, there's such predictability with our country. We go and we send 50 soldiers over to the Middle East and President Obama gets up and announces that we're sending 50 soldiers to the Middle East. Fifty very special soldiers. And they now have a target on their back, and everything we do, we announce, instead of winning, and announcing when it's all over. There's such, total predictability of this country, and it's one of the reasons we do so poorly. You know, I'd rather not say that. I would like to see what they're doing. Because you know, many countries, I can't say Germany, but many countries are spying on us. I think that was a great disservice done by Edward Snowden. That I can tell you.


During the exchange Trump also said several times that the U.S. shouldn't be the policeman of the world, and that the U.S. has been "the big bully" but taken advantage of economically by protecting all these other countries while we are a "debtor nation."

"Our country is a debtor nation, we're a debtor nation. I mean, we owe trillions of dollars to people that are buying our bonds, in the form of other countries. You look at China, where we owe them $1.7 trillion, you have Japan, $1.5 trillion. We're a debtor nation. We can't be a debtor nation. I don't want to be a debtor nation. I want it to be the other way. One of the reasons we're a debtor nation, we spend so much on the military, but the military isn't for us. The military is to be policeman for other countries. And to watch over other countries. And there comes a point that, and many of these countries are tremendously rich countries. Not powerful countries, but ' in some cases they are powerful ' but rich countries."

Trump also pointed out that NAFTA was initiated by Reagan and signed by Clinton. "Nafta has been a disaster for our country," he said. At one point, asked about Japan, North Korea and the nuclear deterrent, Trump 'misspoke' and referred to 'how we backed our enemies'.

"I don't think they feel very secure in what's going on with our country, David. You know, if you look at how we backed our enemies, it hasn't ' how we backed our allies ' it hasn't exactly been strong."


You can read the full NYT transcript here: [Transcript: Donald Trump Expounds on His Foreign Policy Views.]

[NOTE: In December, at a Trump campaign rally in Grand Rapids, Michigan, I got a front-row spot and disrupted Trump's Michigan speech by shouting "ISRAEL DID 9/11! Five JEWS Arrested on 9/11 In New Jersey, NOT Muslims!" Trump's Response To the "Israel Did 9/11" Protester was almost more Interesting Than The Heckle Itself, when he replied "He's A Trump Guy, He's On Our Side! He's Very Committed!" He then stopped his speech for another full minute and watched as the Secret Service escorted me out, and told the Secret Service no less than six times "don't hurt him, be nice to him," "don't hurt him, be nice to him," "don't hurt him, be nice to him." Those videos are below.

I discussed this experience with John Friend of The Realist Report here. Very fun show.]


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