State CPS Agents Seize Family's Kids With No Due Process, Outraged Armed Father Seizes Children Back From Foster Parents
By Martin Hill
February 13, 2016



The facetious headline above is made up, yet not to say unwarranted in our current society. This is to make a point.

Just a few more thoughts on the whole Oregon fiasco. This isn't to demonize Lavoy Finicum or to say he deserved to die for his acts- I think the whole ordeal could have been handled much better and non violently, on both sides. I am going to 'dare' offer a critical analysis of someone who's been martyred and lionized by the 'patriot' community.

"SHOOT ME! SHOOT ME! SHOOT ME!" is what Finicum shouted to cops, according to his friend and witness Shawna Cox... this after he sped towards the roadblock, crashed and jumped out of the vehicle. I don't think this guy is some hero like many do. He acted like a maniac. According to Cox, Ryan Payne, a passenger in Finicum's vehicle, was arguing with him to stop the truck but Finicum refused. The Oregon newspaper which interviewed Cox after Finicum's death reported

"Finicum's determination to push on, though, triggered an argument with Payne. Payne had participated in the 2014 standoff with federal agents in Nevada over Cliven Bundy's disputed grazing privileges. Cox said Payne grew increasingly agitated, urging Finicum to stop.,, Payne told the group the police "mean business" and stepped out of the pickup, shouting at officers that there were women inside. He was soon in police custody, while Finicum yelled at police that he wanted to go see the sheriff, referring to Palmer."

Finicum had emphasized previously that he was not going to prison. Finicum basically committed suicide by cop. I think he used gravely (literally) bad judgment & failed to respect human life- his own- which belongs to God, not just us.

As the Catholic Catechism teaches on The Fifth Commandment, Thou Shalt Not Kill,


2280 Everyone is responsible for his life before God who has given it to him. It is God who remains the sovereign Master of life. We are obliged to accept life gratefully and preserve it for his honor and the salvation of our souls. We are stewards, not owners, of the life God has entrusted to us. It is not ours to dispose of.

2281 Suicide contradicts the natural inclination of the human being to preserve and perpetuate his life. It is gravely contrary to the just love of self. It likewise offends love of neighbor because it unjustly breaks the ties of solidarity with family, nation, and other human societies to which we continue to have obligations. Suicide is contrary to love for the living God.

2282 If suicide is committed with the intention of setting an example, especially to the young, it also takes on the gravity of scandal. Voluntary co-operation in suicide is contrary to the moral law. Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide.

2283 We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives.

Furthermore, the Hammonds, the father & son in prison whom all these protesters were complaining about didn't even support their acts. "Neither Ammon Bundy nor anyone within his group/organization speak for the Hammond Family," the Hammonds' lawyer W. Alan Schroeder wrote to Harney County, Oregon Sheriff David Ward. The whole thing didn't make much sense to me. There were distinct differences between the Oregon case and the Bundy ranch situation in Nevada, Waco and Ruby Ridge, as libertarian icon G. Edward Griffin pointed out in early January. Griffin had correctly warned "If continued on this course, a bloodbath is assured."

One more thing. Finicum admitted in the past that he made his living NOT as a rancher, but as a "foster parent" to dozens of kids over the years. Did he ever mind or oppose the "tyranny" of the state stealing people's kids? Which is at the very least equally egregious, one could even argue infinitely worse than stealing their lands? No, he fed on that government teat like a leaeh welfare recipient enabler. I find that whole so-called "child protective services" system very evil & revolting, & I've seen how they destroy families. I suppose Finicum is lucky he never came across an armed zealot who was righteously pissed that the state stole their kid and gave the kid to Finicum. I'm Not too impressed with all these Mormon cultists.

The tweet below shows all the bullet holes in Finicum's vehicle. This just emphasizes how irresponsible his actions were. All of those people with him could have easily lost their lives.

Divine intervention indeed. Amen! #justiceforLavoy

— Ella E McGuire (@POE314PI) February 1, 2016

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Martin Hill is a Catholic paleoconservative and civil rights advocate. His work has been featured in the Los Angeles Daily News, San Gabriel Valley Tribune, The Orange County Register, KNBC4 TV Los Angeles, The Press Enterprise,,,,, Economic Policy Journal,, FreedomsPhoenix, Haaretz, TMZ, Veterans Today, Jonathan Turley blog, The Dr. Katherine Albrecht Show, National Motorists Association,,, WorldNetDaily,,,,, Dr. Kevin Barrett's Truth Jihad radio show,, Pasadena Weekly,, Los Angeles Catholic Lay Mission Newspaper, KFI AM 640,, Redlands Daily Facts,, BlackBoxVoting, The Michael Badnarik Show, The Wayne Madsen Report,,,,, The Contra Costa Times, Pasadena Star News, Silicon Valley Mercury News, Long Beach Press Telegram, Inland Valley Daily Bulletin, L.A. Harbor Daily Breeze,,, Whittier Daily News, KCLA FM Hollywood, The Fullerton Observer,, From The Trenches World Report, and many others. Archives can be found at and DontWakeMeUp.Org.

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