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Since few people are inclined to watch a 50 minute interview, I have broken down the specific segments in which the two internal affairs police investigators repeatedly affirm that filming police in public is everyone's right.
The following are transcript excerpts and video from that West Covina, California interview. The text of the complaint along with photos and video of the original parking lot incident can be found
here. The entire 50-minute internal affairs interview can be seen here.
For clarity and identification purposes of the investigators, "Cop 1" is the white cop and "Cop 2" is the black cop.
Police Internal Affairs Interview Part 2 / 5
At minutes 0-2:
Cop 2: "Whether they're a reporter or not has no bearing, we WELCOME (filming)..."
Cop 1: "If you have the right to be there legally, you have the right to photograph or film whatever you can see."
Starting around At minute 6, I ask if it is the policy to allow people to film police detaining/questioning suspects in public.
Cop 2 explains: "we really don't operate in the dark. If you want to film it, and you're legally there and you're not gonna be in harms way, we dont have any problem with it..." The officer goes on to confirm "you could have (filmed) because you were within your rights and within our comfort zone."
Q. In West Covina anybody could, they're free to film
Cop 1: Not just West Covina
Q. You're with West Covina.
Cop 1: Yes.
Q. So you can't answer for the other departments
Cop 1: I can answer for everybody, yes. I can answer for everybody in California and everybody in the United States. You are free to film anyplace you're allowed to be legally.
Q. Right. I know that, that's what I started with. but.. reinforcing that, if someone sees someone in West Covina being pulled over by an officer you're saying they would go up to that car and film without any repercussion?
Cop 2: Remember we talked about the part before; if you want to film from what we consider a safe place, what everybody considers a safe place that's fine. The issue you may have is with the person we stop. He or she may not want to be filmed and that's within their rights. We don't deal with that.
Q. That's also in a public place so whether they like it or not, is irrelevent.
Cop 2: I'm just telling ya. We're not in that business. You're in that business. And if someone gets mad at you or doesn't get mad at you because of you filming that's..
Cop 1: But you know if you're- just put yourself in the officer's place. You pull somebody over, it's a relatively, you know its night, it's a relatively dark street. You see a car pull up, you cant see inside of it because its dark, you're gonna wonder what that person's doing there.
Cop 1: You have to use your discretion. I'm gonna shine my flashlight at ya, if I see you're filming, and I recognize it as a camera and not a weapon, you know it's gonna be- ya know, I'm gonna be nervous about it- but it's one thing if I see you over there and it looks like you've got a camera but it looks more like a weapon I'm gonna probably react a little differently. So you have to- it's not just what's legal. You got to remember what's in the officers' mind.
Q. Respect his position.
Cop 1: Yes. and their paranoia, which is justified at times.
Cop 2: It's very difficult for us when there's one vehicle we stop and there's a second vehicle.
Q. Right, you gotta watch your back.
Cop 1: I've had two friends shot to death. On this department. So it's- those things are real. You know. And you can overreact obviously, to that threat or that possibility. But you still have to take precautions. Even if you're not overreacting, you have to take precautions. You know. You want to go home at night. So it's a very very fine line officers walk between your rights and our responsibilities. And being safe. So it's a difficult job. But it's one that has to be constantly reinforced with our standards, the departments standards, besides the law. The law is fairly clear. But our standards and our, the things we want from our officers, the things we want our officers to do and say, have to be reinforced constantly. So that's what we use any complaint as. Even if it's something that the officer didn't do anything wrong, but he could have done something a little bit better. So we're looking for the A+. You know, C's not good enough. We'll tolerate B's. But we're always looking to give the officer additional ways of dealing with a situation that's gonna not only be legal, not only be right but be best possible way with the best possible outcome.
Despite this fact, On 1/27/09, I had another encounter with police in West Covina, CA. You can see the video directly below. This video now has almost two million views. I will be the first to admit that I do not like this video. I did not handle the situation in the best way, (remember I was still new at this). I should not have given the first cop my ID, or gotten out of the car, or allowed the second cop to frisk me. I have learned a lot since then. I did NOT, however, turn off the videocamera as the disgusting cop kept demanding. My wife didn't turn off the camera either. So it was a win, and it exposes the criminality of these rogue cops.
What I DO like, however, is the amount of money I have made on this video and all my filming cops videos. I don't think youtube allows users to disclose the exact amount of money they earn on videos, but let me just say that it's freaking hilarious the amount of residual income I have made, doing nothing, on these videos for YEARS. I HIGHLY recommend it, LOL! ;-) When a cop says "turn that camera off" as in the videos below, I literally hear a "CHA-CHING!" in my head and keep rolling. Here is the West Covina video from 2008 and also some of my most recent videos. Notice the difference in my demeanor.
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